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Replying to Hayley O. 23/05/2023 - 21:06
Hey!
Yes, that is the dose I would go for.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Inga McDermott 24/05/2023 - 09:29
Great to see you here Inga!
I am so pleased you have found the course useful.
I am also pleased you will be making the most of the notebook!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Liz Bode 22/04/2023 - 20:14
Thanks for your thoughts Liz,
The history revealed no toxin or drug exposure that would cause episodic weakness, PUPD or cataract formation. The theophylline was started after all of these clinical signs had developed. Likewise, the dietary history was complete, balanced and calorie appropriate for the dog’s needs. The age of onset of the clinical signs would make a congenital problem less likely. Neither the cataracts of heart murmurs had been noted at the annual vaccination check one year previously. None of the physical examination findings were consistent with pain or a neuromuscular disorder. Systolic blood pressure was documented within the normal range making hypotension a more unlikely cause for the episodic weakness.
For all investigations to be carried out the dog was hospitalised for just over 48 hours. Due to the detection of the heart murmurs and the possibility of the episodic weakness being due to cardiac disease an echocardiogram (looking for structural heart disease) (results below) and ECG (results below) were carried out. No abnormalities were detected with standard ECG. Despite early, mild degenerative changes, no significant structural heart disease was detected. The mitral regurgitation explained the murmur auscultated. It was clear at this stage that there were potential significant co-morbidities, and therefore it was decided to investigate and stabilise underlying diseases before further investigating the possibility of an arrhythmia.
Haematology, biochemistry, blood gas analysis and urinalysis (results below) were analysed to identify underlying metabolic, electrolyte, acid-base disorder or indicators of another systemic disease.
Would love to hear your thoughts on these!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Kathryn B. 19/04/2023 - 19:46
Hello everyone.
Here are my thoughts regarding the problem list and differential diagnosis:
1. Episodic Weakness:
• Primary heart disease (e.g. left-sided heart failure or arrhythmia)
• Electrolyte disorder (e.g. hypokalaemia and hypocalcaemia)
• Endocrinopathies (e.g. diabetes mellitus (DM), hyperadrenocorticism (HAC), hypoadrenocorticism or pheochromocytoma)
• Acid-base disorders (e.g. acidosis or alkalosis associated with pulmonary disease)
• Anaemia
• Inflammatory conditions
• Immune medicated disease (e.g. immune mediated polyarthropathy)
• Neuromuscular disorder
• Pain
• Nutritional derangements (e.g. insufficient calories)
• Hypotension
• Toxins or drugs (e.g. anticonvulsants or antihistamines)2. Heart Murmur
• Mitral insufficiency (e.g. endocardiosis)
• Tricuspid insufficiency (e.g. chronic degenerative valve disease)
• Aortic stenosis
• Pulmonic stenosis
• Ventricular septal defect
• Atrial septal defect
• Physiologic murmurs (e.g. anaemia or fever)3. PUPD:
• Renal disease (e.g. chronic renal failure or pyelonephritis)
• Electrolyte disorder (e.g. hypercalaemia or hypokalaemia)
• Endocrinopathies (e.g. diabetes mellitus (DM) or hyperadrenocorticism (HAC))
• Hepatobiliary disease
• Diet (e.g. increased salt intake)
• Miscellaneous (e.g. polycythemia, psychogenic or renal glycosuria)
• Toxins or drugs (e.g. corticosteroids or diuretics)4. Cataracts:
• Metabolic (e.g. diabetes mellitus or hypocalcaemia)
• Secondary to other ocular disease (e.g. glaucoma, generalised progressive retinal atrophy or retinal dysplasia)
• Senile cataracts
• Trauma
• Toxic or dietary
• Inherited
• CongenitalI would love to hear Liz’s comments on my heart disease DDX… nervously waits!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Magda Upton 20/05/2023 - 11:45
I would agree!
All the B12… reassuring to know we are doing no harm with it!
Scott 🙂
Hello Magda.
I am so pleased you enjoyed the session!
Regarding the trickle feeding. I would just calculate the volume of food as normal based on RER amd divide by 24 hours and set the rate at that. When they are not tolerating feeding I often go very slowly to start with… like 1ml/kg/hr!
That is very sad that you are not able to get the RC liquid feeds… I wonder what danger they pose?!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Magda Upton 20/05/2023 - 12:08
Hey Magda!
Hope you are well! Great question.
There is no evidence that PPIs are useful in these circumstances in veterinary medicine. I had a wee look at the human literature for gastric surgery and could not find anything.
So again, I would not use it routinely in these cases.
Hope that helps.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Francesca Lamb 22/05/2023 - 17:28
Hey Fran!
Great to hear from you. Although furosemide use has been reported, there is not currently sufficient evidence to support standard use in NCPE patients. While furosemide can be considered to decrease bronchospasms and act as a bronchodilator, it has several risks, notably dehydration, as these patients frequently cannot tolerate high fluid rates (because of microvascular permeability and risk for worsening pulmonary oedema). I tend not to use it in these cases and would have similar experiences with cases improving with supportive care (oxygen therapy etc.).
Would love to hear Liz’s thoughts on this!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Francesca Lamb 22/05/2023 - 19:07
Hi Fran,
Great to hear from you. Brilliant questions! I hope you are enjoying the course.
1. Medical and surgical options are available for treating feline pyothorax, although in the available literature there is no agreement as to the optimal treatment. Prospective studies evaluating and comparing the efficacy of the two options are lacking; furthermore, the literature often reports and compares only limited number of cases, making it even more difficult to draw any meaningful conclusion. Despite this, the general consensus is that medical treatment should be considered, at least initially, as the mainstay of therapy. In a recent retrospective study, 85% of cats (47 animals) with pyothorax in the review were treated medically, with only 5 cats not responding and requiring surgical intervention. In the case that I discussed we suggically interviened after 7 days.
Surgery should be considered if there is an inadequate response to medical therapy after 2-7 days – i.e., insufficient clinical improvement, continued fever, continued presence of pleural fluid or if fluid remains turbid or flocculent, and/or detection of an underlying cause on diagnostic imaging (e.g., abscess, suspicion of a foreign body, loculated (compartmentalized) effusions, thickened pleura).
2. I would indeed use IV antibiotic initially and move to oral once the patient is eating. I have popped the full treatment recomendations from the consensus staement below:
“The Working Group recommends that treatment of pyothorax include IV fluid administration and critically, drainage of pus after placement of chest tubes with intermittent or preferably continuous suction with or without lavage. Surgical debridement might be required in some cases. Sixteen reviewers (94%) agreed, and 1 (6%) disagreed with this Working Group recommendation. The primary comment was that evidence supporting the definitive need for thoracic lavage was lacking. However, based on lack of data supporting its use, the Working Group does not recommend administration of antimicrobial drugs into the pleural space.
The Working Group recommends the combination of parenteral administration of enrofloxacin or marbofloxacin (when available in parenteral form) with a penicillin or clindamycin combined with therapeutic drainage of the pleural space with or without lavage for the initial treatment or canine and feline pyothorax pending the results of culture and antimicrobial susceptibility testing. Sixteen reviewers (94%) agreed and 1 (6%) disagreed with this Working Group recommendation. The primary comment was that pradofloxacin administered PO as a single drug could be effective if available.
Treatment with an antimicrobial drug with activity against anaerobes should be continued regardless of culture results because fastidious anaerobic bacteria could be present. If combination treatment was initiated and the bacterial isolates are susceptible to both drugs in the initial treatment regime, then either of the treatment drugs could be discontinued. If organisms are grown that are resistant to one of the drugs and clinical improvement is not noted, that antimicrobial agent should be discontinued. A second drug to which the isolate is susceptible should be substituted if the animal has not responded sufficiently. If organisms are grown that are resistant to both antimicrobials or clinical evidence of improvement is not evident, antimicrobial treatment should be changed to a drug to which the organisms are susceptible in vitro. Fifteen reviewers (88%) agreed, 1 was neutral (6%), and 1 (6%) disagreed with this Working Group recommendation. The dissenting reviewer stated that mixed culture results can be difficult to interpret and so if the animal’s clinical condition improves on the first therapeutic regimen, changes should not be made.
It has been recommended that cats with pyothorax be treated for a minimum of 3 weeks and ideally 4–6 weeks. Additional research is required to determine whether shorter periods of antimicrobial drug treatment might be adequate. Serial thoracic radiography might be useful to determine whether antimicrobial treatment needs to be continued, although further study is also required to determine whether persistent radiographic abnormalities correlate with the need for additional antimicrobial drug treatment. At a minimum, follow-up radiography should be performed for 10–14 days after starting treatment and at completion of treatment. If the pyothorax persists or reoccurs after cessation of antimicrobials, repeated thoracocentesis should be performed for cytological assessment and for culture and antimicrobial susceptibility testing.”
3. The alternative is just normal saline. To lavage the thoracic cavity, you should first remove as much pleural effusion as possible. Then, slowly instill 5-10 mL/kg warm sterile saline, gently roll the cat around, then suction back until negative pressure (I would use 20 ml/kg slowly). Note that all the instillate will not be obtained. This process can be continued several times a day initially, then tapered and used as needed. Chest tubes can be removed depending on clinical improvement, but can generally be considered when fluid production is less than 2 ml/kg/day, cytologic evidence of infection has resolved, and radiographs are improving.
4. BAL is not safe for every patient. I must admit that I would normally carry out BAL in more chronic patients. I would sometimes carry out this procedure in moreunstable patients with careful considerations of the risks/benefits.
I hope that helps.
Scott 🙂
Hello Rosie!
So lovely to have you join us! Thank you for being so supportive of vtx!
I will be excited to see you navigate the Munro and CPD at the same time… those will be great posts for social media!
Have the best time away!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Rosanna Vaughan 17/05/2023 - 12:04
Hey.
It is a game changer for some cats… and for you managing them!
Yes, I would get an off licenc form signed if possible.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Felipe M. 17/05/2023 - 19:10
Brilliant Felipe!
Thanks so much for this!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Emma S. 17/05/2023 - 17:13
Hey Emma!
Really glad you enjoyed it!
Scott 🙂
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