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Replying to Talia C. 04/12/2024 - 19:58
Hi Talia,
You’ve raised some excellent points and highlighted the key challenges in this case, particularly Siichba’s young age and the uncertainty around the stone composition. I’ll share what we’ve done so far and my evolving thoughts.
I agree that simply extending the antibiotic course without addressing the calculi as a nidus of infection is unlikely to fully resolve the issue. While Clavaseptin has good coverage, I’ve transitioned Siichba to a fluoroquinolone to improve penetration into the urinary tract and stones, particularly given the persistent E. coli infection. This choice will be reassessed pending final culture sensitivities.
Determining the stone composition has indeed been challenging. The association between E. coli and struvites makes it tempting to focus on dissolution, but without definitive analysis, we’re balancing probabilities. Given Siichba’s young age and the likelihood of struvite stones in young cats, I’ve started a dissolution diet (feline c/d). This will continue for two weeks, after which I plan to transition to feline i/d to ensure nutritional adequacy for a growing kitten while supporting urinary health. We’re monitoring urine pH to assess dietary impact, and if calcium oxalate becomes a stronger suspicion, I may consider potassium citrate to alkalinize the urine.
To manage the marginally elevated ionized calcium, I introduced 1 gram of soaked chia seeds daily into Siichba’s diet. I hoped this would help reduce calcium availability and minimize calcium precipitation in the urine. It’s a bit of an outside-the-box approach, and I’d love your thoughts on whether this was the right move! If the urinalysis confirms acidic urine with calcium oxalate, I might pivot to other strategies like citrate supplementation.
Hydronephrosis and partial obstruction of the left kidney are concerning, and I completely agree that quick action is essential to preserve renal function. While Siichba’s bloodwork doesn’t yet show signs of renal insufficiency, I’ve implemented close monitoring with serial ultrasounds and bloodwork to track progression. If the obstruction worsens, a ureteral stent or SUB will likely be our next steps.
To manage pain and improve comfort, I’ve started buprenorphine and Prazosin to help relax the ureteral smooth muscle and encourage stone passage. Siichba is also on IV fluids to maintain hydration and dilute urine, reducing the risk of further stone aggregation.
While the ultrasound findings are detailed, I’m still considering a contrast-enhanced CT to better visualize the ureteral anatomy and obstruction.
I’ll keep you posted on Siichba’s progress, and I completely agree that a discussion on ureteral calculi and stents would be a fantastic topic. Thank you for your input, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on some of the management choices, particularly the use of chia seeds.
Best,
Scott 😊
Really interesting!
I thought this was something only rabbits got!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Lara Brunori 02/12/2024 - 13:38
Hi Lara,
Thank you for your kind reply and for following up!
You’re absolutely right that Hill’s i/d isn’t typically marketed for urinary health specifically. It does have some urinary benefits because of its S+OX Shield™, which is designed to promote a urinary environment that reduces the risk of struvite and calcium oxalate crystal formation. While it’s not as focused as diets like c/d or s/d, its nutritional profile (moderate magnesium and phosphorus levels) and acidifying properties make it a good option, particularly for growing kittens who need a complete and balanced diet.
Latest Cystocentesis Results
We’ve received the results of the latest urine analysis, which show:Amber colour, slightly cloudy appearance
Specific gravity: 1.032 (well concentrated)
pH: 5.0 (acidic)
Protein: 1 g/L
Blood: +4 with TNTC RBCs
WBC: 0-3/HPF
Bacteria: Negative
Transitional cells: Few present
Crystals: None detected
It’s great news that the bacteria have cleared, so no further antibiotics are needed at this stage. However, the persistent haematuria and transitional cells are something we’ll continue to monitor closely.On another note, are you still working at Vets Now? Congratulations on passing your boards, such a fantastic achievement.
I’ll keep you updated as we progress, and please let me know if you have any further thoughts or questions about the case.
All the best,
Scott
Replying to Talia C. 02/12/2024 - 08:55
Dear Talia,
Thank you for sharing this case. Pyelonephritis can be such a diagnostic puzzle? The combination of fever, weight loss, and reduced appetite alongside the initial ultrasound findings and positive E. coli culture certainly pointed toward pyelonephritis as the likely culprit. Starting enrofloxacin was a solid choice, and her clinical response after the two-week course was really encouraging. That said, I agree with your instincts—it might’ve been better to extend the course to 4–6 weeks, given the nature of renal infections and their tendency to hang around if not completely eradicated. These infections like to play the long game!
At the three-month follow-up, I think you did the right thing by repeating the ultrasound and urine culture. Even though she’s clinically well now, the residual urine culture positivity raises the question of whether we’re dealing with asymptomatic bacteriuria (ASB) or some lingering infection. The ultrasound findings of mild pelvic dilation and increased cortical echogenicity could well be residual scarring from the earlier infection. It’s always a bit tricky to interpret those changes—renal pelvic dilation can be non-specific, and chronic changes don’t necessarily mean ongoing infection. But I would agree it’s worth keeping an eye on.
Now, about the current culture result showing E. coli in her urine. In a cat who’s bright, eating, and symptom-free, I’d lean toward considering this as ASB rather than an active infection. Studies suggest treating ASB isn’t always beneficial and can even encourage resistance. That said, if she starts showing any clinical signs—lethargy, dysuria, or even subtle changes like hiding more—I’d definitely revisit the idea of treating her with a longer antibiotic course, ideally guided by sensitivity testing.
When it comes to further management, here’s what I’d suggest: No immediate antibiotics. Since she’s well in herself and there are no systemic signs, we can probably leave the E. coli alone for now. Just keep monitoring her closely. Recheck urine culture in 2–3 months. If it’s still positive but she remains symptom-free, I’d still hold off on antibiotics unless her bloodwork (e.g., creatinine, SAA) or clinical signs change. Routine follow-ups. Periodic ultrasounds and blood checks will help keep tabs on her kidney function and detect any recurrence early. It’s also a good opportunity to discuss any subtle behaviour changes with her owner.
I’d be slightly cautious about relying on enrofloxacin for future treatment in this girl if she does need antibiotics again. There have been occasional reports of retinal toxicity in cats on enrofloxacin, especially at higher doses, so it might be worth considering alternatives like marbofloxacin or cefpodoxime instead. It’s a small risk, but I’d rather play it safe when we have options.
Let me know how she gets on or if you’d like to chat through anything further!
Warm regards,
Scott 🙂
Replying to Talia C. 02/12/2024 - 08:30
Dear Talia,
Thank you for your response!
I understand how strict adherence to the ISCAID guidelines can make the use of prophylactic antibiotics challenging. I don’t employ it very often myself, but in a very small number of cases, I’ve found it can help, particularly when there are no viable alternatives and recurrent infections are significantly impacting the patient’s quality of life. That said, I always try to explore other management options first, especially given the concerns around antibiotic stewardship.
Best regards,
Scott 😊
Replying to Rachel C. 12/12/2024 - 14:33
Hi Rachel,
I completely understand your concerns—this is such a common scenario in general practice, and it can be challenging to strike the right balance between monitoring and action while managing owner expectations.
For geriatric patients on long-term NSAIDs, mild increases in ALT and ALP are not uncommon. As long as the dog is clinically well and these changes are mild (e.g., less than 2-3 times the upper reference interval), monitoring is often a reasonable first step. I typically recommend rechecking bloodwork in 2-4 weeks to observe trends. If values remain stable or improve, continued monitoring every 3-6 months, aligned with routine NSAID check-ins, may suffice.
However, I would investigate further if:
Enzyme elevations become significant (e.g., >4-5 times the upper reference interval).
Other abnormalities appear, such as hypoalbuminemia or elevated bile acids.
Clinical signs like anorexia, vomiting, or lethargy develop.
In such cases, additional diagnostics like an abdominal ultrasound can help assess for underlying liver dysfunction.When owners ask about “something to give,” I often suggest liver-supportive supplements such as SAM-e, milk thistle (silymarin), or combination products like Denamarin. While evidence varies, these are generally safe and may offer hepatoprotective benefits.
Carprofen-Induced Liver Injury
It’s important to consider potential carprofen-induced hepatotoxicity, an idiosyncratic reaction seen in some dogs, typically within the first month of treatment. Clinical signs include anorexia, vomiting, and icterus, often accompanied by elevated ALT, ALP, and bilirubin levels. The condition can improve with prompt discontinuation of carprofen and supportive care. Interestingly, Labradors appear over-represented, although this might reflect breed popularity. Histopathological findings often reveal bridging hepatic necrosis, and chronic liver disease as a sequel has not been clearly established.Additionally, a study published in the J Am Vet Med Assoc (“Hepatocellular toxicosis associated with administration of carprofen in 21 dogs”) highlighted variable clinical courses among affected dogs. While most recovered after discontinuation of the drug, some cases showed associated renal abnormalities, likely secondary to tubular disease.
Let me know your thoughts or if you’d like to discuss this further!
Best,
Scott 🩺🐾
Replying to Liz Bode 29/11/2024 - 08:09
Thanks for your thoughts!
I probably think more about albumin than I should!
Scott x
Replying to Jenny G. 29/11/2024 - 12:25
Thank you again Jenny.
Scott 🙂
Hi Valeria,
Thanks so much for your question! You’re absolutely right that diazepam has been used successfully in some cases to address functional obstructions, likely caused by urethral spasms. When administered intravenously as a single dose, it can be a helpful tool, especially in resource-limited settings where catheterization might not be an option. That said, the risk of idiosyncratic hepatotoxicity in cats, although rare, is a real concern, particularly with oral or repeated dosing. The key is selecting cases carefully, discussing the risks with owners, and limiting its use to short-term scenarios.
It sounds like your experiences align with situations where diazepam has been effective in addressing spasm-related obstructions. For these cases, it’s likely not just luck, as relaxation of striated muscle in the urethra can definitely make a difference. However, when true physical obstructions like plugs or calculi are present, diazepam alone won’t solve the issue and could delay necessary intervention, like catheterization or flushing.
In cases where catheterization isn’t possible, there’s a validated alternative protocol you might find interesting. A study by Cooper et al. (2010) found success using a combination of acepromazine, buprenorphine, medetomidine, decompressive cystocentesis, and a quiet environment to manage urethral obstruction without catheterization. This protocol allowed 73% of cats to urinate spontaneously within 72 hours. While it’s not perfect, as some cases did experience complications, it’s a great option to consider, especially in low-income settings.
As an alternative to diazepam, have you considered midazolam? It offers similar muscle relaxant properties but has a shorter duration of action and may present a lower risk profile in certain cases. Its use could be worth exploring, especially in situations where you’re cautious about diazepam’s hepatic side effects.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you’d like any more info or references.
Best regards,
Scott
Replying to Valeria Bergomi 27/11/2024 - 15:20
No problem!
I am looking at you post about diazepam in cats now!
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Scott 🙂
Thank you so much for sharing!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Talia C. 24/11/2024 - 20:40
Dear Talia,
Thank you for your reply! It sounds like you have a very systematic and thorough plan in place, which is great for these tricky cases. You’re absolutely correct in your understanding of the response to desmopressin (synthetic ADH). The diagnostic utility of a DDAVP trial lies in its ability to differentiate between central diabetes insipidus (CDI), nephrogenic diabetes insipidus (NDI), and psychogenic polydipsia (PD), as you outlined. A marked increase in urine concentration, with a urine specific gravity (USG) above 1.025 or a rise of over 50% from baseline, strongly supports CDI. In contrast, only minimal improvement in USG is expected with NDI because the kidneys are unresponsive to ADH. Dogs with psychogenic polydipsia may show a mild reduction in urine output and water intake as plasma osmolality normalizes, but this response is often subtle.
The morning USG of 1.028 does introduce some complexity. While it suggests some ability to concentrate urine, it doesn’t entirely rule out CDI, as partial CDI cases may show intermittent concentrating ability. Similarly, primary polydipsia can also present with variable USG patterns, making it challenging to differentiate between the two based on USG alone.
If there is still concern about being “stuck” between NDI and primary PD, adding SDMA testing and advanced imaging are excellent next steps to rule out subtle renal disease or structural abnormalities. Iohexol clearance testing could also be considered, as it provides a precise measure of glomerular filtration rate (GFR) and might uncover early renal dysfunction not evident on routine tests. Monitoring USG at different intervals, particularly during periods of water restriction if feasible, may also help establish a clearer pattern of water handling and concentration ability.
The planned full abdominal ultrasound is an important step and will help exclude other systemic causes, particularly structural or functional abnormalities that could impact water balance. Chronic conditions, such as low-grade inflammation or mild endocrine issues, could also contribute to her clinical signs and would benefit from this thorough evaluation.
If you proceed with a DDAVP trial, I recommend carefully monitoring water intake and USG over several days before and after administration. While this won’t definitively distinguish between all potential causes, it often provides enough diagnostic clarity to inform further management or investigations. Please let me know how she progresses following the ultrasound and any additional testing.
Best regards,
Scott
This is so helpful!
Thank you for sharing. I hope everyone is having a wonderful (ulcer free) weekend!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Lesley M. 22/11/2024 - 22:36
Thank you so much and thank you again for sharing via email.
I will make sure to post here!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Lara Brunori 18/11/2024 - 13:36
Hi Lara,
Thank you again for your response. I wanted to provide an update with additional details. We checked ionized calcium, and it was marginally increased at 1.40 mmol/L (reference: 1.13–1.38 mmol/L). This might be age-related as Siichba is still a growing kitten, but we’re keeping it in mind. To help manage this and potentially reduce calcium excretion into the urine, we’ve recommended adding 1 gram of bloomed chia seeds daily to Siichba’s diet.
Based on the findings and concerns for stone formation, we suspect struvite stones as the most likely culprit given Siichba’s age (<6 months). We’ve initiated a therapeutic diet starting with feline c/d for two weeks, transitioning to feline i/d, which is nutritionally complete for kittens and designed to manage urinary health while preventing recurrence. We’re monitoring closely for any signs of worsening hydronephrosis or ureteral obstruction, as these could progress to renal insufficiency or failure. Currently, the blood work does not suggest renal dysfunction, but we are being proactive in case this changes.
Pending the repeat urine culture results via cystocentesis, we’ll decide on whether to continue antibiotics or adjust based on sensitivity findings. Regular rechecks, including imaging and urinalysis, will help us track changes in the stones’ size, position, and composition.
Your point about considering minimally invasive techniques like lithotripsy is well-taken—it would certainly be ideal if dissolution fails or calcium oxalate stones are confirmed. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this plan and any further suggestions you might have!
All the best,
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