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Replying to Pauline Brauckmann 22/09/2025 - 18:55 Hi Pauline, I couldn’t agree more, Denamarin tablets are a real compliance challenge. They’re bulky, unpalatable, and the formulation makes them particularly unforgiving. The key issue is that S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe) is highly sensitive to gastric pH and handling. That’s why the Denamarin tablets are enteric coated, to protect the SAMe from degradation in the stomach and allow absorption in the small intestine. Crushing the tablets destroys that coating and essentially wipes out the bioavailability. On top of that, they’re supposed to be given on an empty stomach, because food can significantly reduce absorption. That’s easier said than done, especially in cats (who rarely tolerate tablets at the best of times), and in dogs where owners struggle to withhold food beforehand. There are some formulation differences across products: Dogs: Denamarin chewable tablets exist in some markets, but even those are often large and not much more palatable. SAMe-only formulations (e.g. Denosyl) can be an option if you don’t need the silybin component. Cats: The standard tablets are particularly difficult to administer. Compounding pharmacies can prepare SAMe suspensions or smaller capsules, but stability and bioavailability are less predictable compared to the proprietary coated tablets. Bioavailability: Studies have shown that SAMe bioavailability in dogs and cats is variable, depending on the salt form used (tosylate vs disulfate) and whether the product is properly protected with enteric coating. Even small changes in formulation can dramatically affect how much active SAMe reaches circulation. So we’re stuck with a product that’s clinically useful, but difficult to administer exactly as intended. In practice, I’ve had to either coach owners through creative administration strategies (often with limited success). It still amazes me that, given how widely prescribed these products are, no one has produced a reliably smaller, more palatable, cat-friendly format. I hope you are enjoying the course! Scott 🙂 Replying to Jo T. 22/09/2025 - 22:46 Hi Jo, It’s so lovely to hear from you, I’m really glad to hear you’re still enjoying your time at the hospital! I can imagine it’s a great environment for keeping skills fresh, especially with all the ophthalmology you’re seeing. Sorry to hear you’ve been unwell, I hope you’re feeling much more like yourself now. Don’t worry at all about catching up; that’s the beauty of this course format, and I know you’ll slot right back in. Let me know if I can help in any way as you’re getting back into it! Take care and speak soon, Scott 🙂 Replying to Victoria R. 25/09/2025 - 14:31 I can see one image now! Thanks for uploading! Looks painful! Scott 🙂 Hi Raquel, Apologies for the delay in replying, and how exciting that you’re stepping into your first FMT case! I’d love to hear how it all went, did you go ahead with the procedure? How did the patient tolerate it? Based on your summary, this sounds like a solid candidate, a well dog with chronic mixed-bowel diarrhea, chronic enteropathy confirmed on SI biopsies, and a long-standing history. It’s also great that he’s no longer on antimicrobials or steroids, which simplifies the interpretation of response to FMT and helps avoid confounding effects on engraftment. Given the months-long history and prolonged hospitalization, this seems like a great opportunity to trial microbial-directed therapy. If you haven’t done the FMT yet, or if you’re considering repeating it, here are some thoughts and steps you might find helpful: Before the FMT Deworming: Definitely worth repeating if there’s any uncertainty about timing or coverage, especially with chronic GI signs. Fenbendazole 50 mg/kg PO q24h for 5 days would be my go-to. Cobalamin: If it hasn’t been checked recently, I’d strongly recommend it. Even subclinical hypocobalaminemia can affect mucosal healing and response to therapy, and supplementing (either oral or SC) is easy and low risk. Fasting: A short fast (8–12 hours) beforehand can help reduce interference from residual stool and improve retention time post-enema. Probiotics: I usually advise stopping probiotics 48–72 hours before and after FMT to reduce microbial competition, although this is based more on consensus than data. Diet & Timing You mentioned he’s on a z/d trial arranged by a colleague, that’s absolutely fine, and it makes sense to stick with it during the FMT window. I’d recommend avoiding any diet changes for at least 2 weeks after FMT so you can assess its impact in isolation. If you’re not seeing improvement, you can consider a novel protein or hydrolyzed protein switch later, but try to change only one variable at a time. FMT Dosing & Technique If you opted for rectal enema (still the most common method in dogs): Dose: I’d suggest 10–20 mL/kg of filtered slurry (based on recipient BW), for the first treatment, closer to 10 mL/kg may be easier to tolerate. Retention: The target is ≥30–45 minutes, but don’t consider it a failure if they defecate earlier, many dogs retain for hours, but some will pass it sooner, and still show benefit. Sedation: Case-by-case. I sedate most of mine but some centres will perform conscious! If the patient is anxious or hard to handle, mild sedation can help ensure safe and effective delivery, though there’s no evidence it improves outcome. Donor screening: Ideally a healthy adult dog with no GI disease, no antibiotics in the last 90 days, and recent clear fecal tests (including Giardia, ideally PCR or antigen). Monitoring & Repeat Plans Most dogs with chronic enteropathy benefit from more than one FMT, with treatments spaced roughly 10–20 days apart. In one retrospective study, a median of 3 FMTs was associated with improved outcomes, and about 75% of dogs who responded showed further gains after the second dose. Use clinical signs (stool frequency/consistency, tenesmus, appetite, energy) to guide repeat timing. Outcome Tracking & Owner Guidance Make sure owners know that FMT is an adjunct, not a standalone cure, and that improvements may be incremental. Mild, transient side effects like flatulence, softer stool, or nausea can occur, but serious adverse effects are rare. Key goals include improved stool quality, reduced urgency, improved QoL, and potentially reduced reliance on immunosuppressants down the line. If you’ve already performed the FMT, I’d be really keen to hear how the dog responded, was there any change in stool quality or frequency? Did you consider a repeat, or are you waiting until the z/d trial has run its course? Hope it went smoothly and look forward to hearing an update! Very best, Scott Hey Tori! I can’t see the images. Can you try and attach again? Scott 🙂 Replying to Victoria R. 21/09/2025 - 21:50 Interesting! I often the the recurrent UTI cases to use periuvular wipes. I normally use chlorhexidine wipes… I don’t think there is any evidence for this recommendation, but seem to make sense in theory? Scott 🙂 Replying to Victoria R. 21/09/2025 - 22:03 Haha! I could not agree more! I am not sure I did before we had access to this sort of thing! I think it provides a vastly improved level of service to clients and vastly improves our quality of life! Scott 🙂 Hello Rachel. Thank you so much for your brilliant question. I hope you are enjoying the course. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! I will make sure Georgia sees this question and we will get back to you as soon as possivle. Scott 🙂 Replying to Victoria R. 14/09/2025 - 10:06 Hi Tori, I really just wanted to pay tribute to the word ceruminous — it’s an absolute delight to say and deserves more airtime. There are a few words that have always stood out as favourites for me purely on how satisfying they are to say… notably ursodeoxycholic acid and levetiracetam. But I think ceruminous has just earned a place on that list. It’s wonderfully ceremonious, really. Scott 🙂 Hi Tori, I’ve been using ChatGPT alongside dictation pretty much daily for about a year now, and honestly I don’t think I could practise without it anymore. I record almost every client interaction (consults, phone calls, follow-ups, always with consent), then feed the transcripts into ChatGPT to turn them into structured, professional notes. I keep a separate ongoing chat thread for each patient, which I use to draft emails, referral letters, and clinical record entries. It’s streamlined so much of my admin and makes it easy to maintain continuity. Our hospital has also recently moved over to Co-vet, which I think looks excellent, the only reason I’m not using it fully is because my current workflow with dictation and AI is already so integrated and efficient. Even this reply is dictated directly into ChatGPT, it’s become second nature now. It’s been a complete game changer for me. So, I am not a fan of chat GPT to come up with the answers, but with the use of dictation it makes my words better! Scott 🙂 Thanks for sharing this Tori. Why do they think he was ataxic? What do you think was the underlying reason for the severity of the skin disease? I often see dogs with skin disease, especially around the vulva, with recurrent UTI’s. IS this something you see? Scott 🙂 Replying to Victoria R. 06/09/2025 - 21:20 Hi Tori, Totally agree with you, I think we do miss a fair few cases and only see the tip of the iceberg. I tend to see them more often through medicine referrals, usually when there’s Horner’s or a facial nerve component, and that does push me toward imaging and referral relatively early. Scott 🙂 Replying to Pauline Brauckmann 23/08/2025 - 18:55 Hi Pauline, Great question. Denamarin is not a core therapy for snakebite, but it can be a reasonable adjunct after the acute phase in dogs that develop hepatic enzyme elevations or suspected oxidative hepatocellular injury. I have to be honest though, I have not seen many snake bites in the parts of the world I have practiced in! Where do you practice… If you say Australia, you will know significantly more than me! 🙂 In most canine envenomations the primary problems are neurotoxicity, hemotoxicity or myotoxicity depending on the species, together with shock, coagulopathy, local tissue damage, and secondary renal risk. The only treatment that changes outcomes consistently is timely antivenom, plus aggressive supportive care, analgesia, fluid therapy, control and monitoring of coagulopathy, and management of local tissue injury. Denamarin, which combines SAMe and silybin, is a hepatoprotective and antioxidant supplement; it does not neutralise venom and will not influence the immediate course of envenomation. Where it can help is later, once the dog is stable and eating, if you see ALT or AST increases, hyperbilirubinaemia, or a pattern suggesting hepatocellular stress from hypoperfusion, haemolysis, drug exposure, or systemic inflammation. In that context a two to four week course is reasonable and safe in most dogs. Dose SAMe at about 18 to 20 mg per kg once daily on an empty stomach and aim to include a silybin component around 4 to 5 mg per kg daily, which Denamarin provides. Recheck liver enzymes in two to three weeks and stop if values normalise and the dog is clinically well. If the dog is nauseous or not tolerating oral meds, skip it in hospital. Intravenous NAC is a better inpatient antioxidant for very sick dogs who cannot take tablets, but it is not an antidote for snake venom either; use it only when there is a separate indication for parenteral hepatic support. If there is significant local necrosis, coagulopathy, rising CK or myoglobinuria, prioritise antivenom, fluids, pain control, wound care, and monitoring of PT aPTT platelets PCV TS creatinine CK and urine output. Add Denamarin later if liver values are abnormal once the dog is eating. There is no strong evidence that prophylactic Denamarin in all snakebite cases improves outcomes. Reserve it for documented or strongly suspected liver involvement. I hope that helps! Please let me know how you got on with the course and if you have any feedback! Scott 🙂 Replying to Sarah Keir 02/09/2025 - 07:31 I think I saw that image on your social media… it was impressive! Scott 🙂 Replying to Sarah Keir 02/09/2025 - 07:28 I think that is maybe part of the problem… everyone considers it to be a rubbish part of the job!? I used to love being hidden away in the dental room in my PDSA days! Teaching was certainly very limited when I was at vet school. Scott 
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