scott@vtx-cpd.com
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Replying to Raquel M. 18/03/2025 - 15:13
That’s a great point, Raquel. Hydracare definitely seems to be hit or miss with individual cats, but for the ones that take it, it’s an easy way to increase hydration without needing to resort to SQ fluids. I agree that simplifying the dosing to one pouch SID regardless of size is a practical approach—getting owners to stick with it consistently is often more valuable than perfect adherence to the recommended amount.
I haven’t seen much recent research on its efficacy either, but anecdotally, I’ve seen it help in some cases. Interesting that some vets have used it in dogs as well—I imagine it could be useful for chronic kidney disease patients or those needing extra hydration support without IV or SQ fluids.
Clients are already prone to selective hearing, so if different team members say slightly different things, it makes it even harder for them to understand the importance of environmental changes. I think your approach of giving them the resources and accepting what’s out of your control is the best way to handle it—it’s all we can do sometimes!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Laura S. 18/03/2025 - 14:52
That’s such a great point, Laura, and definitely something I run into as well. Clients often struggle to see stress as a factor, especially when they perceive their cat’s life as comfortable or don’t notice overt stress behaviours. It can be tough to explain that what we see as a calm environment isn’t necessarily what they experience.
I think handing out the ICC client guide is a great idea, but I agree—getting them to actually read it is another challenge. Sometimes, I find that framing it in terms of predictability and control rather than outright calling it “stress” helps. Instead of saying, “your cat is stressed,” I try to ask questions like:
Does your cat ever sit and stare at you before eating? That’s a sign they might be food-motivated but also anxious about when their next meal is coming.
Does your cat follow you to the bathroom? That’s often a sign they’re seeking security and reassurance.
Ever seen your cat sprint across the house out of nowhere? That could be a stress outlet, not just zoomies!
I love Sarah Caney’s stance, letting cats go outside or bringing the mice in is a hilarious but effective way to get the point across!
If you haven’t already, you should check out the latest podcast about these very guidelines with Sam: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-70-just-a-thought-should-i-use-prazosin-in/id1514839581?i=1000699372600.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Cristina M. 14/03/2025 - 15:45
Hi Cristina,
That’s really interesting to hear about the approach in Italy. It makes sense that prevention efforts are keeping cases relatively low, which probably reduces the need for routine testing before surgery. I can see how it’s a difficult balance between identifying at-risk patients and adding unnecessary screening.
I’ve definitely seen more issues with lungworm-related coagulopathies in the UK than heartworm, and I agree that testing before abdominal procedures seems like a good precaution in those cases. I wonder if there will ever be a clearer consensus on pre-surgical screening for both heartworm and lungworm, or if it will always come down to clinical judgment and local risk.
Scott
Replying to Liz Bode 13/03/2025 - 21:13
HAHAHAHA!
Me too!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Laura S. 11/03/2025 - 20:03
Hi Laura,
Great to hear your thoughts. I’m the same, I’ve never really looked for hypernatremia after AC either, and it’s not something that’s been flagged as a major concern when following VPIS advice. It’s interesting that your formulation contains glycerine rather than sorbitol, I wonder if that has any impact on sodium shifts.
I tend to stick to one or two doses unless enterohepatic recirculation is a factor, and then I’d usually go for every six to eight hours for three doses rather than continuing indefinitely. I guess it’s always a balance between risk and practicality.
This study is really interesting because it suggests that single-dose AC may be just as effective as multiple-dose AC in reducing overall plasma drug exposure in carprofen overdose. All AC protocols, including single-dose and multiple-dose AC, significantly reduced overall carprofen exposure compared to controls, and while multiple-dose AC shortened the half-life, it did not significantly outperform single-dose AC in lowering total drug exposure. From a practical standpoint, this could make AC administration more manageable, particularly in outpatient cases where multiple doses may not be feasible.
While looking into this, I also came across a case report of gastrointestinal obstruction secondary to activated charcoal granule impaction. A two-year-old Airedale Terrier received multiple doses of AC granules for carprofen toxicosis and ultimately required surgical removal of impacted charcoal material from the ileum. Not something we see every day, but definitely a reminder that more is not always better when it comes to AC.
And yes, it is always a light-coloured dog, isn’t it? Never the black Labs.
Scott
Full papers:
Carprofen overdose and AC effectiveness: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/vec.12305
Case report of AC impaction: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/vec.12980Thank you again for another brilliant video on a really interesting topic!
Scott 🙂
This is a brilliant question!
I am looking forward to hearing people’s thoughts.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Liz Bode 07/03/2025 - 12:06
Thanks pal.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Felipe M. 08/03/2025 - 11:48
Hey Felipe!
Really interesting that you mention tramadol and oral buprenorphine!
Thanks again for sharing.
Scott 🙂
Replying to Cristina M. 05/03/2025 - 17:43
Hi Cristina,
Great to hear your thoughts.
I use Alfaxalone and Butorphanol for lots of my patients and find it a great option for mild sedation, particularly when there’s concern about underlying cardiac disease. I also find that Dexmedetomidine or Medetomidine offer deeper sedation but like you, I avoid them in patients with suspected cardiomyopathies due to their cardiovascular effects.
It’s interesting that you rarely see excitement with ketamine when combined with opioids and alpha 2s. I agree that it’s generally very reliable but I’ve had the odd cat that reacts unpredictably though that might come down to individual variation.
I look forward to hearing Liz’s thoughts on this.
Cheers,
Scott 🙂
Replying to Cristina M. 05/03/2025 - 17:48
Hi Cristina,
Great to hear your thoughts and experiences. I hope you are enjoying the course.
It’s really interesting to hear that you’ve been in situations where it was just you and a VCA performing CPR. That must have been incredibly challenging, but I completely agree that as a profession we’ve come a long way in improving how we handle these situations. Having regular team simulations makes such a difference in building confidence and efficiency.
I also found it surprising that 6 rescuers were considered the optimal number. Like you, I would have expected 4 to be enough in most cases, especially since many teams don’t have the luxury of more people actively involved. I completely agree that 8 can easily become too many, leading to confusion rather than efficiency.
Scott 🙂
Hello everyone!
My name is Scott. I am one of the Directors at vtx and a specialist in small animal internal medicine. I am rather rubbish at cardiology, but happy to jump in with any more medicine related questions people have!
I hope you all enjoy the course.
Thank you for supporting vtx.
Scott 🙂
Thank you again for another brilliant video!
Scott 🙂
Replying to Nikki McLeod 02/03/2025 - 15:48
Totally agree!
Do you do this sort of training in your nurse clinics?
Scott 🙂
Replying to Bethany Deadman 02/03/2025 - 17:17
Hi Bethany,
Thanks for your message. I completely agree that at-home analgesia for patients with liver disease can be a real challenge, especially when options like opioids aren’t feasible outside of a hospital setting.
Gabapentin could be an option in this case, particularly as part of a multimodal approach. Given its primary renal excretion and minimal hepatic metabolism, it is generally a safer choice in liver-compromised patients compared to NSAIDs or paracetamol. That being said, I’d be really interested to hear Felipe’s thoughts on its role in visceral pain.
Regarding NSAIDs, I would be quite hesitant in a dog with a liver mass, particularly if synthetic function is compromised or there is concurrent portal hypertension, coagulopathy, or gastrointestinal fragility. NSAID-induced hepatopathy is rare but can occur idiosyncratically, and as you mentioned, the risk of GI ulceration is always a concern.
It’s great to hear that you have had good success with IV paracetamol in-hospital, particularly in pancreatitis, post-op GI cases, and painful autoimmune conditions like IMPA. It does seem to be underutilized in some settings, despite its potential benefits in those scenarios.
Let me know your thoughts, and I’d love to hear Felipe’s perspective as well.
Best,
Scott 🙂
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