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Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 07/06/2024 - 20:16
Great question!
When dealing with a haemoabdomen, stabilizing hypovolemia and hypotension is critical. While crystalloids are commonly used, there are specific situations where fresh frozen plasma (FFP) can be particularly beneficial.
Using Fresh Frozen Plasma (FFP):
Crystalloid Sparing: In cases where patients have significant protein loss, such as septic peritonitis with high protein abdominal exudates, plasma can be very helpful. These patients often develop hypoproteinemia and decreased colloid osmotic pressure (COP). In such situations, plasma can provide oncotic support, allowing for smaller fluid volumes and reducing the need for large amounts of crystalloids, which can further damage the glycocalyx and worsen TP/albumin/COP, potentially causing interstitial edema and other issues.
Glycocalyx Protection: The glycocalyx is a crucial barrier that maintains vascular integrity. Shedding of the endothelial glycocalyx occurs in response to ischemia, hypoxia, ROS, inflammation, sepsis, and trauma (including hemorrhagic shock). Research shows that resuscitation with plasma can partially restore the glycocalyx, whereas crystalloids do not. This restoration is likely due to the albumin in plasma, which helps preserve endothelial integrity, reduces glycocalyx shedding, and mitigates interstitial edema. Albumin also reduces neutrophil adhesion to the endothelium and has anti-inflammatory properties.
Coagulopathy: Another specific indication for using plasma products is in patients with coagulopathy. Fresh frozen plasma can provide necessary clotting factors to help manage bleeding disorders, which is particularly important in patients with haemoabdomen who may be experiencing coagulopathy secondary to their condition.
When to Use Plasma:
If PCV is maintained but TP is low, plasma can be useful to support oncotic pressure and provide necessary proteins.
Plasma is particularly indicated when there’s a need to avoid large volumes of crystalloids due to potential damage to the glycocalyx or worsening of interstitial edema.
Use plasma when you need to provide additional oncotic support in patients with significant protein loss or low COP.
Consider plasma products for patients with coagulopathy to provide clotting factors and manage bleeding disorders effectively.
In summary, while crystalloids are typically used for initial resuscitation, FFP has specific benefits in certain clinical scenarios, especially where maintaining oncotic pressure, protecting the glycocalyx, and addressing coagulopathy is critical. Plasma can be a valuable tool in your arsenal, particularly for patients with significant protein loss, hypoproteinemia, or coagulopathy.If you need more detailed information or have additional questions, feel free to ask!
Best regards,
Scott
Replying to Rachel C. 05/06/2024 - 15:11
Hello Rachel,
Yes, the event was recorded. We will post the video here shortly so you can listen to it at your convenience.
Many thanks,
ScottReplying to Talia C. 11/06/2024 - 12:48
Hej Talia,
I completely agree—it’s a shame that Fortiflora can’t be used during an elimination diet since most patients do enjoy it! It’s always a bit of a challenge to balance palatability with the strict requirements of an elimination diet.
Thanks for sharing your approach! What probiotics are you using?
Best regards,
Scott
Hello,
I don’t routinely auscultate the abdomen for gut sounds in animals as part of every physical examination. There isn’t an accurate standardization of what constitutes normal gut sounds, and I think this practice is most useful in patients suffering from gastrointestinal ileus. However, I base my assessment of ileus more commonly on clinical signs and potentially using abdominal ultrasound to look for peristalsis.
While I would not consider abdominal auscultation part of every examination, it may be useful in some specific cases. Here are a few general guidelines if you choose to incorporate this practice:
Normal: Regular, gurgling sounds occurring every 1-2 minutes.
Hyperactive: More frequent sounds, which may suggest gastrointestinal hypermotility (common with diarrhea, certain dietary changes, or gastrointestinal upset).
Hypoactive or absent: Fewer sounds or silence, which can indicate ileus, obstruction, or other significant gastrointestinal problems.
Incorporating this practice can help detect abnormalities early and provide a more comprehensive assessment of your patients, especially in cases where gastrointestinal issues are suspected.I would be interested to hear the experience of others!
Best regards,
Scott 🙂
Hi Helen,
Thank you so much for sharing this information. It’s fantastic to see opportunities like the How To Thrive event being made available to us. The focus on empowering individuals and teams with the skills needed to thrive in veterinary practice is incredibly valuable. I appreciate the 20% discount offer for VTX members and course delegates—it’s a great incentive to attend.
Looking forward to the event!
Best regards,
ScottReplying to shimin cheong 08/06/2024 - 08:08
Hi there,
Thanks for your message and for sharing your thoughts. It’s great to hear that you found the information helpful.
Regarding your case, the clinical signs are indeed a crucial aspect of monitoring, and it’s good to know that the owner feels they are well controlled.
Looking at the ACTH stim results, a baseline cortisol of 1.7µg/dL and post-ACTH cortisol of 8.9µg/dL are within the acceptable range, which suggests that the trilostane dose is not overly suppressing the adrenal function. However, the mildly elevated potassium at 5.9mmol/L and the Na/K ratio of 25 are worth noting.
While hyperkalaemia can be a sign of hypoadrenocorticism (Addison’s disease), it’s also important to consider other potential causes, even if the kidneys appear normal.
In this scenario, if the patient is well and not showing any clinical signs of hypoadrenocorticism, I would not adjust the trilostane dose at the moment. Instead, continue to monitor the potassium levels and the patient’s clinical signs closely. If the potassium levels continue to rise or if the patient starts showing signs of hypoA (e.g., lethargy, vomiting, diarrhoea), then reducing the dose of trilostane might be warranted.
By the way, was the potassium run in-house or sent to an external lab? Could the elevated levels be due to a transport error or haemolysis?
Thank you for bringing up this important discussion. Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions or updates on the case.
Best regards,
Scott 🙂
Hi Liz,
Thanks for sharing these exciting updates from ACVIM!
And I have to say, cardiology studies always have the best names! The REPAIR study sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie. 😂
The potential use of aficamten in cats with HCM is particularly intriguing, especially given its shorter half-life and fewer drug interactions compared to mavacamten. It’s great to hear about advancements that could make a real difference in treatment options.
Looking forward to hearing more about these studies and any other interesting findings you come across.
Watch this space indeed!
Scott x
Replying to Lesley M. 05/06/2024 - 22:27
Thanks Lesley.
Darren Kelly also did a brilliant free webinar for BOVA about trilostane monitoring. It is worth a watch!
https://www.workcast.com/register?cpak=3634203936942572&referrer=website
Scott 🙂
Hi there!
Great question about monitoring Cushing’s disease with pre-Vetoryl cortisol levels. There’s no perfect way to monitor the response to trilostane, and both the pre-pill (pre-Vetoryl) cortisol and ACTH stimulation tests have their roles. Here’s a breakdown based on current understanding:
Pre-Vetoryl (Pre-Pill) Cortisol:
Usefulness: Pre-pill cortisol can be useful in certain cases, but it has limitations. It’s not ideal if the dog is aggressive, very stressed, or unwell at the time of sampling. Additionally, the samples must be submitted to an external lab, as studies validating this method were not done using in-house machines.
Limitations: Cortisol secretion is episodic, so a single sample may not provide complete information. If you get a low result from a pre-pill cortisol test, it’s still advisable to run an ACTH stim test to ensure the adrenal reserve is not over-suppressed.
ACTH Stimulation Test:Role: The ACTH stim test is the traditional method and is useful to ensure that the adrenal axis is not over-suppressed. It helps verify that the treatment is not too aggressive.
Limitations: Neither the ACTH stim test nor the pre-pill cortisol can tell you if you are giving enough trilostane. You need to consider the clinical response (i.e., resolution of clinical signs like polyuria and polydipsia).
Dosing Considerations:Many cases do require twice-daily administration of trilostane. However, due to the cost, starting with once-daily dosing is reasonable, hoping it will be sufficient.
If ACTH stim or pre-pill cortisol levels are within the recommended range or higher and clinical signs persist, there may be scope to increase the trilostane dose.
Reference ranges for cortisol are different from therapeutic ranges; the lab should highlight these differences.
Adjust doses based on the persistence of clinical signs, not just test results. If tests suggest potential over-suppression but the dog is still showing clinical signs (like polyuria/polydipsia), consider splitting the dose to twice daily. Confirm this need with an ACTH stim at 22-24 hours post-pill if necessary.
Twice-Daily Trilostane:Equal doses should be given morning and night to facilitate monitoring and avoid peaks and troughs in drug concentration.
Summary:Clinical signs are the mainstay of monitoring trilostane response.
ACTH stim or pre-pill cortisol tests help avoid over-suppression of the adrenal axis.
Adjust trilostane dose primarily based on clinical signs, using these tests to guide safe dosing.
Additional Resources:
Lesley has also offered some useful resources that can provide further guidance and insights into the management of Cushing’s disease.If you have any further questions or want to discuss this more, feel free to reach out!
Thanks,
Scott 🙂
Replying to Tayer M. 06/06/2024 - 04:53
Hi Tayer,
Welcome to the course! It’s great to have you here, and I hope it helps make surgery a bit less intimidating.
Regarding your question about haemoabdomen and fresh frozen plasma: If you’ve managed to maintain PCV and stop active bleeding but have low TP, the decision to use fresh frozen plasma depends on the situation. Fresh frozen plasma is particularly useful if there’s a need to address clotting factors or if the patient shows significant clinical signs related to low protein levels.
The decision-making process around using colloids vs. plasma and other products can be complex. I’ve popped your question on the colloid thread so we can chat about it more in detail!
Hope this helps, and feel free to ask more questions!
Thanks,
Scott 🙂
Replying to Jon H. 03/06/2024 - 18:31
Hi there,
Haha, I guess I couldn’t resist sneaking in some of those intriguing medical cases! It’s all part of the fun and learning experience, right? 😄
Hope you’re finding the material interesting and useful, even with the occasional medical detour!
Best,
Scott x
Replying to Raquel M. 05/06/2024 - 15:32
Hi there,
You’re welcome! As for calibrating the refractometer, I recommend doing it at least once a week to ensure accurate readings. Additionally, it’s a good practice to calibrate it before any critical measurements or if you notice any discrepancies in your readings.
Hope this helps!
Best,
Great Question!
Tayer also asked a similar question from lesson one which I will pop here:
“One question I have from the first lesson on Haemoabdomen – you mentioned stabilising the hypovolemia and hypotension but didn’t mention fresh frozen plasma. If you were able to maintain PCV and stop active bleeding but low TP would use it then or do you tend to just stick with colloids and wait for body to reproduce? If so when do you reach for the plasma and why…”
Scott 🙂
Replying to Victoria Rubasinska 04/06/2024 - 21:13
Hi Vicki,
Welcome back! It’s great to have you here. I completely understand the need to brush up on urgent surgeries after a break, and it’s awesome to see you diving back into learning.
I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the presentations so far. I’m also looking forward to the upcoming sessions and learning together.
All the best,
Scott
Replying to Jon H. 03/06/2024 - 18:26
Hi Jon,
I LOVE THAT PHOTO!
Thank you for your message and for the engaging webinars. They have certainly sparked some reflective thoughts on past and current cases.
I’m looking forward to more webinars and discussions. Thanks again for your dedication and effort in sharing your expertise with us.
Thank you for working with us!
All the best,
Scott 🙂
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