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Hey Beth.
Thanks again for the question regarding heparin and PCV.
Specific studies evaluating the effect of different anticoagulants on PCV and total protein in dogs are few in number. Of those available, only a small number of samples have been tested. Dubin et al. (1976) reported that PCV was 2 to 6·5% lower in 36 EDTA samples at two different concentrations compared to 30 heparin samples. Such a difference might be explained by EDTA hypertonicity leading to cellular dehydration and consequently to a reduction in PCV (Dubin et al. 1976). In this study, PCV measured in heparin and EDTA samples were significantly correlated. Despite this, there was a statistically significant difference in the values obtained with heparin PCV consistently being higher than EDTA PCV. The magnitude of the difference was only in the region of 1 ±2%. Therefore, although no other opinion was sought, it was not considered to be of major clinical importance and would have had no real impact on clinical decision making. The use of a standard type of EDTA tube (1·6 mg of anticoagulant for 1·3 mL of blood) rather than tubes with higher concentrations of EDTA may explain the difference between this and the study by Dubin et al. (1976). Furthermore, TPr measured in heparin and EDTA samples were significantly correlated and there was no significant difference in the values obtained. Increasing concentrations of EDTA, as might occur with incomplete filling of blood tubes, are known to increase TPr (total protein) (Dubin & Hunt 1978). However, meticulous care was taken in this study to accurately fill tubes mitigating against varying EDTA concentrations. This may help to explain the lack of any difference between LiH and EDTA samples. These results suggest either anticoagulant can be used to simultaneously and interchangeably measure PCV and TPr if only one sample type is available at any one time.
In a more recent study PCV and TPr were measured in 43 corresponding heparin and EDTA samples. There was an excellent
correlation (r=0·97, P<0·0001) between the PCV obtained from heparin (44 ±8%) and EDTA (43 ±7%) samples. However,
there was a statistically significant (P<0·0001) difference between the values obtained. Compared to EDTA, the PCV determined from heparin samples was overestimated with a mean bias of 1·29.Overall, there are differences, but it is probably fine to use both. EDTA would still be considered gold standard, but if only heparin available this should be OK.
Hope that helps.
Scott 🙂
Hello everyone!
So lovely to hear from you. It is particularly exciting that everyone is from all over the world!
Some great questions already. I will answer below.
Scott 🙂
I think you are right, this is obviously a bad complication, but quite rare in the grand scheme of things. I had a look through the other literature and overall it is reassuring. This recent JVECCS paper is helpful:
Retrospective evaluation of factors associated with degree of oesophagitis, treatment, and outcomes in dogs presenting with esophageal foreign bodies (2004-2014): 114 cases
Abstract
Objective: To characterize a population of dogs presenting for oesophageal foreign body removal and evaluate factors associated with degree of oesophagitis and minor and major complications.
Design: Retrospective evaluation of dogs who presented for oesophageal foreign body removal between January 2004 and December 2014.
Setting: University veterinary teaching hospital.
Animals: Data collected from 114 dogs included signalment, history, clinical signs, physical examination findings, duration and location of foreign body, degree of oesophagitis, foreign body removal success, feeding tube placement, and clinical outcomes. Owners were contacted for outcome data not available in the medical record. Data were analyzed for breed predispositions, whether duration or type of foreign body was associated with degree of esophagitis or complications, and factors associated with feeding tube placement.
Measurements and main results: The overall success rate for foreign body removal via oesophagoscopy was 95% with a complication rate of 22%. Small breed dogs were overrepresented. Dogs with a foreign body present for >24 h were significantly more likely to have severe esophagitis (P < 0.001) and major complications (P = 0.0044). Foreign body type did not predict degree of oesophagitis or complications, though fishhooks were more likely to require surgical removal (P = 0.033). Feeding tubes (15 gastrostomy, 1 nasoesophageal) were placed in 14% of dogs and were more likely to be placed if the foreign body had been present for >24 h (P < 0.001). Conclusions: Consistent with previous studies, oesophageal foreign bodies, appropriately identified and endoscopically removed, carry a good prognosis, particularly if they have been present for ≤24 h. The majority of dogs recovered without any minor or major complications (56/72, 78%). Overall, 16 patients had a complication reported, including those who did not survive to discharge. Four dogs recovered with minor complications (6%); 5 dogs suffered major complications (7%); 1 dog had a gastrostomy tube-associated complication (1%); 2 dogs underwent cardiopulmonary arrest under anesthesia (3%); 3 were euthanized prior to discharge (4%), and 1 decompensated within 24 h of discharge and was represented for euthanasia (1%). Minor complications included vomiting/diarrhea (3) and cough/tracheitis (1). No dogs were reported to have inappetence following foreign body removal. Major complications included oesophageal stricture (4) and aspiration pneumonia (2); 1 of the 5 dogs with major complications suffered from both aspiration pneumonia and an oesophageal stricture. Of the 4 dogs with a documented stricture, 2 were ultimately euthanized due to this complication, and 2 were managed with a gastrostomy tube. The gastrostomy tube-associated complication was described as pain associated with the feeding tube stoma. The overall complication rate for our patient population was 22% (16/72). Take home message... don't be scared! Scott 🙂
Thanks.
Intermittent seizuring like that is quite uncommon with liver disease. I think it is more likely that the epilepsy is worsening? Neurological signs with liver disease normally happen at very advanced stages of diseases, so would be unusual for the dog to be normal in between.
Just a thought.
Scott x
Good old rutin!
I have never been sure about how effective it is… but definitely worth a go!
Would be interesting to hear how this case does.
Scott 🙂
Hello Jessica.
Hope you are well and enjoying the course.
I am so sorry for any confusion here. Andy has sorted… as always.
Let us know if you have any other problems or questions.
Scott x
Hey Inga.
I thing the possibilities are endless with this drug!
“Tranexamic acid (TXA) is an antifibrinolytic agent that exerts its effects by reversibly binding to the lysine sites on plasminogen molecules and inhibiting plasmin. TXA is widely used in human medicine and decreases mortality, reduces blood loss after trauma or surgery, and lowers transfusion requirements in trauma patients with bleeding. TXA has been shown to decrease mortality over placebo in trauma patients, It is also noted to have good safety parameters upon administration and is recommended for use in human trauma patients with bleeding.
In veterinary medicine, TXA has been used to reduce blood loss by slowing fibrinolysis in various diseases causing clinical bleeding such as hemoperitoneum, haemothorax, thrombocytopenia, anticoagulant rodenticide intoxication, peri-operative bleeding, epistaxis, and feline interstitial cystitis-associated bleeding. It has a wide safety margin and is rarely associated with hypersensitivity reactions. In humans, common side effects of TXA are mild symptoms including nausea, flushing, vomiting, allergic skin reactions and headache, although anaphylactic shock is rarely reported. In dogs, the main reported side effect is vomiting”.
I think there is a lot more to come!
Scott 🙂
Hello!
Hope you are well. Great question. I do find these cases really frustrating to manage medically! I would go for as low fat a diet as possible. Hills ID low fat would probably be a good starting point. Would the owners consider surgical managemnt/pleural port?
Scott 🙂
Hello.
Are you thinking about specific. Neither of these infectious diseases will cause a specific hepatopathy. E canis has been reported, but not commonly:
There is one report of an adult German Shepherd presenting with clinical signs and biochemical abnormalities consistent with acute hepatitis where the eventual diagnosis was Ehrlichia canis infection; following identification of E. canis using cytologic, immunohistochemical, and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing, the dog was treated successfully with supportive care and doxycycline.
With both infections, particularly Babesia, there are lots of reasons that liver exzymes would be increased. Hypoxia, anaemia and systemic inflammation.
Hope that helps.
Scott 🙂
Thanks for this.
Following on from what Sara has said… was the thinking that this dog was having seizures due to the liver disease? What other meds was this dog on? You are right, there is very little evidence to support exactly what drugs to use in cases that have seizures due to severe liver disase/hepatic encephalopathy. I think it would be fine in these cases to escualte yo the 60mg/kg dose for short term control. The following drugs can be cnsidered:
1. Avoid benzodiazepines
2. Phenobarbital (4 mg/kg IV q 3-6 h for 4 doses)
3. Potassium Bromide: Loading: 400-600 mg/kg/day divided over 1-5 days PO with food; can be given per rectum if needed. Maintenance: 20-30 mg/kg PO q 24 h. Sodium bromide can be used if an IV form is necessary.
4. Propofol 1-3.5 mg/kg IV bolus, followed by CRI of 0.01-0.25 mg/kg/min.
5. Keppra 20 mg/kg (up to 60 mg/kg) PO or IV q 8 h (there is no evidence-based medicine to support this).Hope that helps.
Scott x
Hey everyone.
I love the M&M suggestion, but understand the challenges of doing these when you are a locum.
I was having a really interesting conversation with Lou Northway the other day (Lou the vet nurse for thouse of you on Instagram). She was saying that one of the biggest barriers to peple doing M&M’s is that is seems like a very formal process with a presentation etc. M&M rounds could actually be a 10 minute informal chat over a cup of tea. We should feel comfortable to chat about what we can do better.
I passionately belive that every member of the team is equal! We can all learn from each other.
Sara, do you find you are able to M&M’s at Vets Now?
Scott x
Thanks so much for this.
Really helpful. The images are great!
Scott 🙂
Thanks so much!
I will try and cover these final points in the liver session tonight.
Scott 🙂
Hey.
Shar-Pei dogs can experience short (12- to 48-hour) recurrent bouts of fever, accompanied by inflammation of joints (especially the hocks, i.e., swollen hock syndrome). This disorder also is known as familial Shar-Pei fever (FSF). Episodes typically are more frequent during the first years of life and become less frequent with age. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) administration seems helpful during episodes. The major constituent of the thickened skin of Shar-Peis is hyaluronic acid (HA), and HA is overexpressed in Shar-Peis compared with other canine breeds. The extent of hyaluronanosis varies among individual Shar-Peis, although almost all are affected. The administration of corticosteroids decreases cutaneous mucinosis in Shar-Peis, perhaps by decreasing expression of hyaluronan synthase. The role that excessive HA in Shar-Peis plays in FSF needs to be investigated further. Shar-Pei dogs affected with FSF are at risk of developing reactive systemic AA amyloidosis and subsequent kidney or liver failure. Treatment of FSF-affected Shar-Peis with colchicine (0.025-0.03 mg/kg [maximum per dose: 0.6 mg] PO q 12 h) has been recommended. The benefit of long-term colchicine, corticosteroid, or other immunosuppressant administration, however, remains to be published.
Scott 🙂
I think that is a great approach Simon!
It really is all about communication… and respect. We all have to listen to each other and realise that we all have so much to learn from each other. I would be greatful to be told a better way to do it!
You are right about the reversal first if HR super low.
While I am on… massive congratulations to Gail on her place on the Masters in anaesthesia at Edinburgh University!
Scott 🙂
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