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  • scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Thanks Liz.

    I knew you would know!

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Hey.

    Do you know who makes the dentasept? I am struggling to fing it. I wanted to check the ingredients.

    Scott 🙂

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Overall, I don’t think there would be a strong contraindication regarding making these patients sick.

    I have been asking round in the office too! Most people agree that if there is not a partial torsion, vomiting should be safe. There is always the risk of aspiration too.

    Most of these cases I have managed with analgesia, fluids and time.

    Hope that helps.

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    THis is quite a new paper looking at risks with foreign body emesis. Generally wuite safe!

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32077200/?from_term=apomorphine+dogs+complications&from_sort=date&from_pos=1

    I cant find anything specific. I also can’t find any reports of gastric rupture with apomorphine. Does anyone know of any reports of this?

    Scott

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    This is a really interesting question!

    Did you make this patient sick?

    I think another consideration would be the position of the stomach. If there was any sort of partial torsion, I would obviously be more concerned about emesis.

    Let me have a look at the literature too.

    Scott 🙂

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    This is a really interesting question.

    I definitely ‘grew up’ being told that bicarbonate therapy was a last resort. I try to think about this in the context of some of the more common cases that we see:

    In diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA). The metabolic acidosis of DKA typically resolves with fluid therapy and insulin alone. Sodium bicarbonate, is no longer recommended. The American Diabetes Association does list it as a treatment option for patients with a pH < 7.0 1 hour after onset of fluid therapy, without prospective randomized studies to demonstrate efficacy. Bicarbonate drives K into cells, potentially worsening hypokalaemia; shifts the oxyhaemoglobin curve to the left, decreasing oxygen release at the tissue level; and can contribute to paradoxical CNS acidosis, fluid overload, lactic acidosis, persistent ketosis and cerebral oedema. Regardless of the condition, it would be rare to reach for the bicarbonate without other therapies (fluids) starting first. The only clinical situation where I have used bicarbonate was in a rare case of distal renal tubular acidosis (secondary to IMHA). These cases have significant bicarbonate wastage due to their tubular disorder. I have also been bicarbonate used in cases of CPR when bloods have been taken during the CPR and a severe acidosis is determined. Overall, not something I can think of many indications for. Any other thoughts? Scott

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    This is really interesting.

    Thank you so much for this Simon.

    Scott 🙂

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Great to hear!

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    The animal data definitely support twice daily omeprazole.

    Omeprazole at 1mg/kg BID is the most effective way to modify gastric acid.

    Scott 🙂

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Gail.

    You make a good point regarding the omeprazole. The data sheet does advise giving this over 30mins. We should be following this as much as possible.

    One way around this would be to sue injectable pantoprazole. The effect is the same but does not require the 30 mins.

    Hope that helps.

    Scott 🙂

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Sara,

    You make an excellent point about the increased risk of pneumonia with omeprazole.

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    This is a really interesting discussion.

    In my gastroprotectants webinar, the main focus is regarding the use of ranitidine to modify the pH of the stomach and protect against reflux oesophagitis or help with the healing of gastroduodenal ulceration. Ranitidine is inferior to PPI’s like omeprazole for this purpose. It has been shown in in dog and cat studies to perform as well as placebo in modifying (increasing) gastric pH.

    There is very little evidence in dogs to support the use of ranitidine as a prokinetic. One sketchy paper from the 80’s!

    Having said all of that… rabbits are totally difference. I would be interested to see if anyone can shed any light on the literature surrounding this… definitely not my area!

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Thanks Liz.

    Scott x

    scott@vtx-cpd.com
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    Hello Sara.

    Hope you are safe and well.

    You are right regarding the DDX for the pyrexia, the list for this is obviously quite extensive. You have indeed covered the main categories. I would probably say ‘immune-mediated’ (particularly in an exam). This means that you are covering yourself for primary or secondary disease:

    • Infectious causes (bacterial, fungal, viral, protosoal and rickettsial)
    • Immune disease
    • Neoplasia
    • Tissue damage
    • Pharmacological agents (e.g. colchicine, tetracycline)

    Distal limb swelling?

    • Immune-mediated polyarthritis usually affects multiple joints, may be shifting in nature, and is often symmetrical. The joints are usually swollen and the severity of pain may be variable.
    • Septic arthritis can result in severely painful swollen joints, often accompanied by non-weight-bearing lameness. Most cases are associated with a penetrating injury, though haematogenous spead of bacteria to the joints is more likely in cases of pre-existing OA (unlikely in this dog). Where haematogenous spread of infection is involved, multiple joints may be affected.
    • Neoplasia (e.g. synovial cell sarcoma), though capable of causing swelling of the limbs, is unlikely to cause symmetrical disease with multiple limb involvement.
    • Vasculitis mediated by immune complexes occurs in dogs. Lesions are most prevalent in the dermis of the distal limbs and mucous membranes of the mouth. Vasculitis is a feature of SEL in some animals, but is most often idiopathic. Drug-induced vasculitis has been well recognised in dogs.

    Hypoalbuminemia could also be a possibility for causing the distal limb swelling. Your comment about the cardiac disease is interesting. I will maybe get Liz to comment on this.

    How would you investigate the pyrexia and joint swelling?

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