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    Replying to Francois Ravier 11/12/2021 - 14:35

    Hi Francois,

    Sorry for the delay in replying, I hope that you have had a good Xmas.

    Yes, RBBB has been associated with MMVD and many other disease processes in dogs, but the mechanism is unclear. RBBB does not require treatment, but I have seen dogs progress to complete AV block after being diagnosed with MMVD and RBBB so it is worth keeping an eye on them. We presumed in that dog that it had conduction system disease that eventually degenerated and required pacemaker implantation.

    Happy New Year 🙂

    Liz

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    Replying to Gabriela Gonzalez-Ormerod 07/12/2021 - 18:49

    Hi Gaby,

    Scott has asked me to answer your question on rivoroxaban vs clopidogrel in cats with HCM.

    Rivoroxaban is a factor Xa inhibitor, therefore it is a true anti-coagulant as it targets the coagulation cascade but in a much more reliable way than heparin (plus it is in oral form so can give to dogs and cats at home). Clopidogrel, on the other hand, is an anti-platelet drug that binds to the P2Y12 receptor on the platelet. This blocks the effect that ADP has on the platelet (as the P2Y12 receptor is the ADP receptor), preventing platelets changing shape and so sticking to each other. It is irreversible and so binds to platelets for their lifespan.

    We only have evidence for clopidogrel use in cats with HCM and FATE – this was called the FATCAT study and the abstract is here:

    FATCAT study

    In brief, they showed that clopidogrel increased the time to recurrence of FATE when compared to aspirin (443 vs 192days). Therefore, our preference is to use clopidogrel at the moment. It has to be remembered that this study was in a certain population though i.e. cats that had already suffered a FATE episode and we have no other evidence for other stages of disease.

    We advise starting clopidogrel in any cat that has a dilated left atrium (usually a 2D left atrial size of >19mm and LA:Ao >1.7) with reduced LA function. There is currently a study underway comparing clopidogrel with rivoroxaban in cats with FATE (SUPERCAT study) but results have not been released yet and I think it will be awhile until they are available as these cats don’t tend to get referred. It might turn out that rivoroxaban is superior to clopidogrel. In people, rivoroxaban is preferred over drugs like warfarin as it has a safer profile, but obviously we don’t use warfarin in our patients.

    In cats that are at high risk of FATE i.e. have had an episode, or have a thrombus/ smoke you could combine both drugs together. I tend to start with clopidogrel and if I have a cat with FATE then I might use both together.

    Hope that helps,

    Liz

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    Liz Bode
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    Replying to Francois Ravier 07/12/2021 - 13:17

    Hi Francois,
    Thanks for commenting 🙂
    I agree, the HR is approx 100-120bpm with an irregular rhythm.
    There is a P:QRS of 1:1, and the P waves are positive in lead II so they have a normal origin (from the SAN).
    The QRS complexes are negative in lead II and positive in aVR, so we have a right axis shift, and the QRS complexes are wide and bizarre (so look ventricular in origin). They measure 70ms.
    The P wave is normal in size.
    The presence of a P wave with a normal PQ interval suggests that the atrial and ventricular activity are connected. You are right in thinking that there is a conduction abnormality, in this case right bundle branch block. So the time it takes for ventricular depolarisation is prolonged, hence the wide QRS.
    Great job!
    Liz

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    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 26/11/2021 - 15:36

    Hi all,

    The device is the same as the medical one but as it has been validated in dogs, cats abs horses they market it as a veterinary device separately (this is my understanding at least).
    You can buy it for your iPhone and there is a vet/owner specific app for the phone. You can use it without clipping I think and the trace you get is equivalent to lead II and is good for arrhythmias and normal rhythms. It doesn’t replace a Holter or Linq device (3 year microchip ECG) but still def has its place if owners can’t afford these.

    Liz

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    Replying to Megan B. 11/11/2021 - 22:46

    Hi Megan,

    Thanks for the question. Scott might have more to add but a game changer is using gentle suction (if you have this available) and a mucus trap. You attach the mucus trap directly to the scope and the longer end to suction. Place 1ml/kg saline in a syringe with some air also, inject where you want it to go, coupage the chest as you inject and then as soon as you’ve stopped injecting apply the mucus trap with very gentle suction. Carry on with the coupage until you start to see a bit of foam – which is surfactant. You know you’ve sampled the alveoli then. There is no need to use a catheter with this technique.
    If you don’t have suction then you will have to use a BAL catheter. Do the same with fluid and coupage but you’ll get much less fluid back.
    Once you have fluid ensure it goes directly into a plain and an EDTA pot.
    Hope that’s helpful

    Liz

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    Replying to Emma Holt 10/11/2021 - 16:45

    Hi Emma,

    Not any more significant than saying ‘this cat most likely has heart disease’. It isn’t haemodynamically significant as it appears on its own and at a rate that is similar to the sinus rate.

    Liz

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    Replying to Emma Holt 09/11/2021 - 23:02

    Hi Emma,

    Yes, sorry this slipped off the radar but I was thinking yesterday that I hadn’t put up an explanation.

    This ECG shows a heart rate of around 220bpm. It is a sinus rhythm as there is a P wave for every QRS apart from one single, wide and bizarre looking QRS that occurs near the start.

    Liz Bode
    Keymaster

    Love these!!

    Liz Bode
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    Love these!!

    Liz Bode
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    Hi Lesley,

    Sorry I missed this post! Such a sad case.

    I have looked at the radiographs and I can’t see anything obvious in terms of the thorax. The heart is a normal size and shape. The airways look normal. There is mediastinal shift on the DV, but this is likely due to atelectasis from the dog being in lateral recumbency (I would imagine).

    My thoughts on the case:
    Given the forelimb signs and pain, I wonder if she had a cervical disc lesion. This would explain those signs. Also, if it got acutely worse then this could explain the collapse, bradycardia and respiratory arrest as all the nerves controlling these physiological processes arise in the cervical spine?

    Scott may have more to add though 🙂

    Liz

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    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 14/09/2021 - 10:18

    Hi Scott,
    I’m keen to try this as some of my patients won’t eat until their heart failure is better controlled. Can you use it in both cats and dogs?
    Liz

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    Replying to Anna Deen 24/09/2021 - 07:28

    Hi both,

    Great answers, it is a tricky one as this could be an MMVD lesion on the posterior valve. The murmur had not been noticed before, CRP was >70 mg/l (very high). I thought that this was most likely an endocarditis lesion – it oscillates separately to the valve and flails into the LA, it is very echodense and organised (almost polypoid). The posterior leaflet is not usually as affected as the anterior leaflet in MMVD, which increased my suspicions more. There was MR associated with it, although the anterior leaflet is also thickened and does display some evidence of MMVD.

    The lameness localised to the carpus, this was tapped and appeared septic. Blood cultures and joint fluid cultures were submitted. CT was performed. Urine cultures also. Then the dog was started on IV antibiotics including potentiated amoxicillin and enrofloxacin. In the literature they say to hospitalise for at least 7 days, but with financial considerations this was not possible. Therefore, she was discharged following normothermia and when she was eating on oral equivalents.

    She is currently doing well and I will re-echo in 4-6 weeks and recheck CRP. If CRP normal then I will stop antibiotics.

    Liz

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    Replying to Liz Bode 20/09/2021 - 12:11

    Hi all,

    As promised, I have recorded me talking through the interpretation of the radiographs. Please find the link below and let me know if there are any issues with it.

    Radiograph interpretation

    BW

    Liz

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    Hi Emma,

    That is a cool case (sadly not for the dog, but this is pretty rare I think?). Excellent work 🙂

    Liz

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    For info (as I didn’t include it before) the paper speed is 50mm/s and sensitivity 20mm/mV

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