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    Dear all

    Hope you are well and have had a fantastic festive period.

    Just wanted to thank you all for choosing Vtx and choosing me for this amazing journey through some advanced techniques in anaesthesia. It means a lot to me to have had you here for this adventure, and I am very grateful for it.

    Some of the sessions of the couse have been on technical skills, however some have been an illustration of my clinical approach to different cases and in different ways. I have loved preparing every bit of this course, but in special those sessions where I have tried to translate my reasoning to you. I believe that having a scientifically sound decision-making to how we plan our cases sets foundations up on which we can very quickly build and advance our patient care. I hope you have found these sessions useful and that they maybe made you like anaesthesia even if a bit more.

    Thank you once more for joining me in this adventure, and hope to meet you all again soon.

    Look after yourselves.

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Hi there Rachael
    Thank you so much! I am very happy to hear you are enjoying the course. And well done for keeping your protocols up to date and refining them. I totally agree that is the best way to give your patients the best care. Fantastic to read this!

    Great questions too, brachycephalics are certainly a big challenge from different sides. Let’s get to it:

    – In terms of fasting, if I get to choose I would go for 6 hours. In dogs 4-6 hours is recommended, and given they are prone to regurgitation and may have hiatal hernia, 6 seems more advantageous to me. However no longer than that as it can increase the chances of regurgitation. Last meal I would recommend to be wet, and water always available.
    – Adjunct medications, I personally like to give them omeprazole, at least the night before and definitely the morning of the anaesthetic. This helps protect the oesophagus from irritation if reflux happens during GA, but we need to keep in mind that no effects will happen until around 4h post administration (and will be sub-maximal as you need several doses for that). So giving it at the time of the regurgitation event will only help protect from effects of further reflux 4h down the line unfortunately. I also use maropitant before I give any drugs, bearing in mind that it does not protect against regurgitation, but in my head if we can reduce any peri-anaesthetic nausea, I hope this should decrease the chances of regurgitation too.
    – Pre-anaesthetic medications: unless contraindicated, I do prefer alpha-2 agonists, at low doses (for the average animal, 2-3mcg/kg medetomidine diluted in 2-3mL and given slow to effect IV, or 4mcg/kg IM) and whichever opioid is adequate for the procedure. I am not against using acepromazine with them, but I usually only use this at low doses for mild sedation in hospitalisation (for anxiety I would prefer trazodone and for proper sedation I do medetomidine infusions).
    – When regurgitation happens, if it’s at the end of the anaesthetic, I suction thoroughly (always check around the cuff of the ET tube!) and give the patient two or three doses of sucralfate in syrup form starting after recovery once safe to eat. However if it is mid anaesthetic, I suction thoroughly and then leave behind 0.6mL/kg of a 4.2% bicarbonate solution (Allison et al 2020) to buffer the oesophagus and prevent oesophagitis. This needs suctioning out before recovery to prevent possible aspiration. In accordance to that paper, I do not lavage any more as it does not change the end oesophageal pH.
    – Extubating with cuff partially inflated is something I sometimes do, however it should never be done instead of a thorough suctioning of oesophagus, pharynx, mouth, larynx (in area where cuff is located) and nose. Good management of the airway reduces dramatically the chances of aspiration. Extubating with cuff partially inflated can be done in addition, however it does carry some risk as it can potentially over-stretch the larynx. If done gently, it should be fairly safe and may help. However I have to say that since I have escalated my airway prophylaxis in cases of reflux, this step is far less important to me. But as I said, it might still be worth adding this in some cases, to maximise safety just make sure you don’t over-stretch the larynx and if it doesn’t seem to come out easily, deflate the cuff straight away.

    Hope this helps, but please let me know if you’d like me to elaborate further!

    Thanks

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 31/10/2024 - 12:26

    I will post below the answer to this question from the other thread in the forum. I believe they are duplicates but let me know if I am missing something!

    Can I just reassure everyone that I do think about the microbiome every time I prescribe omeprazole to an animal? I do not take the microbiome lightly. And neither do I the glycocalix.

    Very keen to read your take Scott!

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Hi there Rachael
    Thank you so much! I am very happy to hear you are enjoying the course. And well done for keeping your protocols up to date and refining them. I totally agree that is the best way to give your patients the best care. Fantastic to read this!

    Great questions too, brachycephalics are certainly a big challenge from different sides. Let’s get to it:

    – In terms of fasting, if I get to choose I would go for 6 hours. In dogs 4-6 hours is recommended, and given they are prone to regurgitation and may have hiatal hernia, 6 seems more advantageous to me. However no longer than that as it can increase the chances of regurgitation. Last meal I would recommend to be wet, and water always available.
    – Adjunct medications, I personally like to give them omeprazole, at least the night before and definitely the morning of the anaesthetic. This helps protect the oesophagus from irritation if reflux happens during GA, but we need to keep in mind that no effects will happen until around 4h post administration (and will be sub-maximal as you need several doses for that). So giving it at the time of the regurgitation event will only help protect from effects of further reflux 4h down the line unfortunately. I also use maropitant before I give any drugs, bearing in mind that it does not protect against regurgitation, but in my head if we can reduce any peri-anaesthetic nausea, I hope this should decrease the chances of regurgitation too.
    – Pre-anaesthetic medications: unless contraindicated, I do prefer alpha-2 agonists, at low doses (for the average animal, 2-3mcg/kg medetomidine diluted in 2-3mL and given slow to effect IV, or 4mcg/kg IM) and whichever opioid is adequate for the procedure. I am not against using acepromazine with them, but I usually only use this at low doses for mild sedation in hospitalisation (for anxiety I would prefer trazodone and for proper sedation I do medetomidine infusions).
    – When regurgitation happens, if it’s at the end of the anaesthetic, I suction thoroughly (always check around the cuff of the ET tube!) and give the patient two or three doses of sucralfate in syrup form starting after recovery once safe to eat. However if it is mid anaesthetic, I suction thoroughly and then leave behind 0.6mL/kg of a 4.2% bicarbonate solution (Allison et al 2020) to buffer the oesophagus and prevent oesophagitis. This needs suctioning out before recovery to prevent possible aspiration. In accordance to that paper, I do not lavage any more as it does not change the end oesophageal pH.
    – Extubating with cuff partially inflated is something I sometimes do, however it should never be done instead of a thorough suctioning of oesophagus, pharynx, mouth, larynx (in area where cuff is located) and nose. Good management of the airway reduces dramatically the chances of aspiration. Extubating with cuff partially inflated can be done in addition, however it does carry some risk as it can potentially over-stretch the larynx. If done gently, it should be fairly safe and may help. However I have to say that since I have escalated my airway prophylaxis in cases of reflux, this step is far less important to me. But as I said, it might still be worth adding this in some cases, to maximise safety just make sure you don’t over-stretch the larynx and if it doesn’t seem to come out easily, deflate the cuff straight away.

    Hope this helps, but please let me know if you’d like me to elaborate further!

    Thanks

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 20/10/2024 - 20:53

    Hey Scott

    Great point! It is a very tricky area indeed. Temporary pacing can be done transthoracic or transvenous. Human-grade defibrillators often have transthoracic pacing capabilities (this is by far the one anaesthetist use the most) which are delivered via pads on the chest. However to do this the animal needs to be anaesthetised and receive neuromuscular blocking agents as otherwise all the muscles in the thorax contract with every pacing pulse, which makes the animal move a lot. We use this as a temporary interim method when preparing patients for a definitive pacemaker implantation. It is indeed also a safety net in case a patient with subclinical conduction problems becomes clinical under anaesthesia, but the management from the point we start pacing (if definitive pacemakers are not an option) is certainly challenging. As you mention, if the patient is drug-responsive to atropine or terbutaline, this may create a window to recover them and hope they return to a spontaneous stable rhythm. Even so, the best way forward in these cases is still pacemaker implantation as is the only certain one.

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Dear all

    My name is Felipe and I am truly happy to welcome you to our advanced anaesthesia course. I am very excited to take this deep dive in techniques and scenarios that go way beyond the basic practice of anaesthesia and expand on those topics that would take us too far from the foundations of anaesthesia in a basic course. We will however be maintaining a solid connections with those principles and foundations to make sense of all these concepts and integrate them in your everyday practice.
    Since I find a big part of my approach to anaesthesia is in the strategy and the reasoning and planning of the case and choice of drugs and techniques, we will also go through some scenarios that illustrate a couple of different ways of doing this. They are scenarios I have been asked about a lot, but I also found them excellent examples for different approaches. Hopefully all this makes sense in the sessions!

    Any questions arising from the sessions, or anything you want to ask, please just pop it in the forum and I will answer all those. I will also put up a question of the week to elaborate a bit more on the material. Please feel free to answer it with whatever you think, even if it’s a wild guess! We are all here to learn together. However it is not required for you to do it, so no pressure. I will be answering these questions on the week after I upload them.

    I would like to thank you for having chosen Vtx and myself for this journey, and welcome you to this course. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did making it.

    Excellent!

    F

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Hello all!

    Hope you are well and excited to be starting this course. My name is Felipe Marquez Grados and I am an EBVS and RCVS Recognised Specialist in Veterinary Anaesthesia and Analgesia. Together we will be going over an initial approach to the practice of anaesthesia, but also over those next steps that elevate our anaesthesia practice to the next level of confidence, comfort and safety. Whether you are starting or already have experience in anaesthesia, there should be something in that session for you! Additionally, I will be available on the forum for any questions or topics you would like to discuss. So any questions, fire away!

    I hope you enjoy the session, as well as the rest of the course, and find it useful.

    Welcome, and thanks for being here.

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Hi all

    A massive thank you from me for choosing us for this journey. Respiratory disease certainly poses some of the biggest challenges for the anaesthetist, so it’s been a very interesting deep dive for me.

    Hope you enjoyed it too, and found the information helpful!

    Thanks again!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Replying to Ursula Lanigan 23/06/2024 - 22:25

    Hi Ursula

    Hope you are well.

    I would say in my opinion I use a similar approach to that I have in dogs, but being even more conservative and targeted with the administration of blood. Blood in cats is a much more precious resource, and therefore I only administer it when I am sure it will not be wasted through haemorrhage, unless the situation is dire and no other option is possible.
    Xenotransfusion is also an option, however it is not without side effects and downsides, so if I can make it without, I try stabilising first with crystalloids/colloids if I have to, especially if by buying time means I can then give a cat whole blood transfusion (with the added benefit of clotting factors vs dog pRBC!). If xenotransfusion is the only option there is, the proportional extra volume we have available for the cat means I may be reaching earlier for it, however keeping in mind once more we are not doing something benign.
    So similar approach to dogs, with the caveat of a much more scarce resource when it comes to blood. I am a bit more cautious with the overall volumes used as cats are more prone to volume overload (I try to stay below 10mL/kg, although if we have severe losses we know some of that is being lost to haemorrhage). And still, knowing that colloids are not benign and it is an imperfect way of doing things, albeit many times the only viable one. If I can get away with crystalloid resuscitation, without doubt I favour that.

    Hope this helps!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Replying to Aileen D. 19/06/2024 - 12:02

    Hi Aileen

    Hope you are well.

    Absolutely. In brachycephalic patients, reducing stress is a critical factor in avoiding respiratory complications in the peri-anaesthetic period. Animals that are anxious to come to the clinic or who are displaying onset of anxiety whilst hospitalised can certainly benefit from trazodone to minimise this and in turn avoid going into a self-perpetuating cycle of anxiety that many times will end up in an emergency situation.

    Additionally, a more relaxed animal on presentation allows for an IV placement before any drugs are administered, which also shortens that period between sedative administration and airway control that we want to keep to the shortest possible. Trazodone has no clinically relevant effects on airway or ventilation, which suits our aims perfectly in these cases.

    Hope this helps!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Replying to Jon H. 14/06/2024 - 09:22

    Hello everyone

    What an amazing topic. All the information here from everyone is absolutely golden. Thank you for having me intruding quickly to give my views on it.

    Clearly synthetic colloids are falling out of favour, especially in human medicine. They have gone from contraindicated in sepsis due to risk of AKI (although the doses used in many of these studies were higher and prolonged) and recommended only for hypovolaemic resuscitation when blood products are not immediately needed, to pretty much not even for this.
    The effects of colloids on the glycocalix are definitely something we need to take into account, especially when we are looking at the recovery in the more-than-just-the-anaesthetic term. Having a disrupted glycocalix will just hinder the recovery of the animals for several reasons (fluid shifts, vasculitis, etc.).

    Some recent research (cannot remember the paper though) has also showed that even single doses of colloids cause an -even if- transient increase in renal function markers. Which is not great, and another reason to avoid them, together with the potential for interference with haemostasis.

    However, in my view of it there is another side to this:

    During anaesthesia for haemoabdomen or any other condition with an active bleeding, damage control resuscitation many times requires fluids beyond more-than-healthy doses of crystalloids, as it is not very sustainable to treat hypovolaemic hypotension with pressors (it is difficult to make up for the lack of preload with vasoconstriction/inotropy, and in some cases also quite dangerous). Where I think we see a bit of a gap between all the information we get from human anaesthesia and veterinary, is the availability and affordability of blood products.
    If I had the option and the resources, it would certainly be pRBC + FFP I would be infusing from the beginning, albeit sparingly, to maintain a MAP of just about 65mmHg, accepting that a lot of it would still be lost in the abdomen before the surgeon stops the bleed. Still a good investment if it maintains perfusion, oxygen delivery and haemostasis.
    However given the implications of not optimising a resource as expensive and precious as blood products or the fact that many patients only have a limited affordability, I do, if I have to, use colloids to buy myself time until the haemorrhage is controlled. As soon as this is the case, I immediately stop them and commence a pRBC and FFP transfusion. If the colloids have been wasted in the abdomen, so be it!
    With all this in hand, I still know this is not the best for the glycocalix, renal function, and haemostasis. However I find many cases just cannot afford an extra FFP and pRBC to buy time, and obviously failing to maintain an MAP of at least 65mmHg would be more detrimental than giving colloids. I have to say that if the resources and finances do allow, I would rather use FFP in their instance if I can plan for it. However if the situation has rapidly changed demanding volume straight away, I may not be wanting to wait for thawing it and instead reach for colloids again (I ask for the bag, but I may only give it post-haemorrage control).

    I have to say I cannot remember a case that has suffered clinical consequences of this approach, but am very conscious that it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It is still not a completely benign approach. I feel sometimes it is the only approach feasible and still effective. Jon can probably testify for the fact that the first thing I ask the clinician is “where are we with transfusions?”, and with the answer I get, I manage the resources as effectively as I can for the patient.

    A game-changer for me in these scenarios would be a CellSaver device, where blood could be filtered and given back as it is collected from the abdomen. However the device and consumables are also costly and need a fairly high caseload to justify.

    Excellent stuff!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 04/05/2024 - 16:59

    Hi there Talia and Scott

    This is a very interesting topic!

    I personally have more experience with gabapentin due to being a more prevalent drug in veterinary prescriptions, but pregabalin has been shown to have additional sites of action and a better overall effect as an analgesic for chronic pain situations. For this reason I am starting to change over to pregabalin.

    For cats, I would dose it at 2-5mg/kg PO BID (as it is eliminated more slowly than gabapentin, especially in cats). Some animals may see enough benefit from a SID regime, but most will need BID. I would not go above 5mg/kg BID normally, as especially above 7mg/kg doses cause incoordination and ataxia.

    Hope this helps!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Hello all

    Hope you are all well!

    My name is Felipe, I am an EBVS and RCVS recognised specialist in Veterinary Anaesthesia and Analgesia. I really hope you enjoy this course. I will be contributing with the anaesthesia management and particulars of these patients, in which complications are common and possibly severe!

    Feel free to fire away any questions in the forum, anytime, and I will be very happy indeed to answer.

    Excellent!

    Felipe M.
    Moderator

    Replying to Rachel L. 10/04/2024 - 17:50

    Hi there Rachel

    Not need to apologise at all! It’s a pleasure to help.

    In case of hypotension, after reducing isoflurane if possible and adequate, I would likely choose noradrenaline for blood pressure management. The reason for this is that noradrenaline can be easily titrated to effect slowly, which would be very advantageous for this patient. I would start at 0.05mcg/kg/min and increase slowly by 0.05mcg/kg/min q5min, until normotensive.
    The effect of ephedrine is not inadequate for this case, but the way it works as a bolus is much more sudden. An infusion can be made too, but usually is started after the initial bolus. Additionally, ephedrine is a bit less reliable in its effects.

    So all in all, I think noradrenaline is a better fit for this patient, and I would still titrate with care!

    Hope this helps!

    Felipe

    Felipe M.
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    Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 07/04/2024 - 18:52

    Hi Scott

    Very fair point. And not very straightforward to tackle, because for me the approach is definitely quite diffuse in my choice-making:

    – By increasing SVR we do increase MAP, but we are likely decreasing cardiac output -we are also decreasing perfusion in general due to the vasoconstriction- which in turn decreases the overall oxygen delivery to the tissues. It sounds like an overall bad idea, but it is not so. When we give isoflurane to our patients we are causing excessive vasodilation -compared to normal- of the vessels, and we see hypotension. In these animals, which usually show a slightly high to high heart rate -actually is a big proportion of our patients if they did not have alpha-2 agonists on board- a bit of vasoconstriction is not a bad thing. So noradrenaline is then a good idea. However it is difficult to know how much vasoconstriction is the right amount to return the vasomotor tone to wherever it was and should be for optimal fluid dynamics -we can get this information with a cardiac output monitor and a peripheral tissue saturation monitor, but otherwise we are guessing-. So for this reason, unless heart rate is high or there is a specific reason for accurate targeting, I tend to go with a beta agonist (dobutamine, moderate doses of dopamine) first, as they will surely increase cardiac output and oxygen delivery to the tissues. This is all a bit of personal view, and there are many nuances to this that make it a very complex subject, that I am not accounting for actually!.

    – However, when would I actively avoid noradrenaline? I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong having norad as a first line drug for blood pressure control, and we do use it very frequently too. I would try to avoid it in animals where an increase in SVR can be detrimental (mitral valve disease, heart failure, low contractility, DCM…) or with ongoing kidney injury (so as to not decrease perfusion). But it all depends on the complete macrovascular (and microvascular too!) picture, so not definite contraindications in my opinion.
    To illustrate this, in my experience animals with mitral valve disease on pimobendan and then going on isoflurane, especially if they had some acepromazine, do not respond very well to dobutamine (they get tachycardic and the blood pressure never goes to acceptable values), and do benefit from low doses of noradrenaline (to compensate the compounding vasodilatory effects, which yields a lower heart rate and good blood pressure – but this obviously depends on many cardiac variables). So as you can see, far from straight forward!

    Hope it makes sense!

    Felipe

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