Emma Holt
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Hi Scott,
How are you? This sounds like an interesting case π
My problem list would include:
-Lethargy and partial anorexia; vague clinical signs
-Lymphopaenia
-Monocytosis
-Regenerative anaemia
-Mild increase in total bilirubin
-Hypoalbuminaemia
-Hypocalcaemia, likely secondary to the hypoalbuminaemia
-Hyperkalaemia
-HypoglycaemiaDdx for the main problems include:
Ddx hypoalbuminaemia:
β’ Chronic inflammatory disease
β’ Hepatic failure
β’ Malabsorption/digestion/nutrition
β’ Haemorrhage (coagulopathy, GI ulceration/neoplasia/parasites)
β’ PLE
β’ PLN
β’ Body cavity effusionRegenerative anaemia ddx:
β’ Haemorrhage
β’ Coagulopathy
β’ Parasites
β’ Haemolysis (oxidative damage due to toxicity)
β’ Haemolysis due to genetic defects ie: PKD
β’ Immune mediated HA (primary, secondary to infection/neoplasia)Hyperkalaemia Ddx:
β’ Artefact
β’ AKI/post renal obstruction/failure
β’ Addisons
β’ Perforated duodenal ulcer
β’ Toxicity
β’ No history of reperfusion injury/Aortic TE, tumour lysis syndrome, DM etcHypoglycaemia Ddx:
β’ Sepsis
β’ Artefact
β’ Drug toxicity (no history of this)
β’ Addisons
β’ Hepatic failure
β’ Idiopathic
β’ Neoplastic
β’ Glycogen storage deficiencyI think my next steps would be (after re-checking my glucose and potassium measurements and I’m presuming there is no problem with urination), would be an A and T-Fast to exclude effusions, blood smear and possibly an ACTH stim/basal cortisol to exclude addisons (even though not completely consistent I think I would want to exclude) and may be a BAST (again not everything matches with hepatic insufficiency, but I would want to exclude that as a cause for the hypoalbuminaemia and the hypoglycaemia before looking further. After that I’d probably do a full abdominal ultrasound scan π
What did you do next and what did you find?
Replying to Felipe M. 23/03/2023 - 14:16
Hi Felipe,
Thank you so much for this answer, it’s very helpful and gives some reassurance of the dose ranges for Nsaids with the references.
Thanks again
Emma
Replying to Andy Bell 23/03/2023 - 13:30
Thanks Andy π
Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 22/03/2023 - 12:39
Hi
I actually have a couple of questions if that’s OK :), I think one ECC and one analgesia (which maybe comes under anaesthesia?)
ECC: I was having a discussion with a friend this week about measuring foetal heart rates with ultrasound. They measured it by getting a nice view of the foetal heart and counting the number of beats. Someone questioned if this was an accurate method, due to the need for a high frame rate on your ultrasound machine. I couldn’t find any specific information on measuring with this method and the only article I found was this one, using the M-mode. How do you measure foetal heart rate via ultrasound? https://www.bcfultrasound.com/canine-pregnancy-part-2-assessing-foetal-viability/
Analgesia question: In a cat with CKD Iris stage 3, what analgesia would you choose for: 1) long term OA 2) Dental disease pain pre-GA? I think my best options are Nsaids or Gabapentin, but neither are ideal in cats with renal disease so wondered what your thoughts/preferences are?
Thank you very much
Emma
Replying to Liz Bode 05/03/2023 - 19:39
Thanks Liz.
I will see how grumpy the cat is and avoid if possible, just to be safe π
Replying to Liz Bode 21/01/2021 - 21:04
Hi Liz,
I’m just re-visiting this post about Gabapentin pre-echo in cats. I generally use it for most echo’s, but I have a case booked in for a few weeks time which is CKD Iris stage 3. I know you said we need to be cautious about it’s use with renal disease. In practical terms how do you interpret this? Do you avoid it completely (and just use Torb +/- Alfaxan if needed), or would you go for the lower dose, so 50mg/cat rather than 100mg?
Thanks
Emma
Replying to Liz Bode 26/02/2023 - 20:53
Thanks Liz, that was a really interesting case.
What breeds would you normally expect to see a PE in? And what sedation do you normally choose when draining pericardial effusions?
Thanks again
Emma
Replying to scott@vtx-cpd.com 15/02/2023 - 20:18
Remind me how I do this again?! You know I’ll always cave in to peer pressure!
Hi Liz,
I would put the Problem list as:
-progressive lethargy and weakness
-Hyporexia
-Fluid abdomen, which on examination has a fluid thrill
-Hypodynamic pulsesPossible ddx could include:
-Progressive lethargy/weakness and hyporexia are quite non-specific clinical signs and could be attributed to a number of body systems (including CV, respiratory, metabolic, MSK).
-Full abdominal appearance could be due to an abdominal mass, peritoneal effusion, overweight/HAC
-Fluid thrill: We would need to get more info to know if it was a transudate, modified transudate, exudate includind haemorrhage etc.
-Hypodynamic pulses could be due to a partial thrombi/obstruction, reduced cardiac output or hypovolaemiaAs a next step for further investigations I would like the following to start with:
-blood pressure
-Haematology, biochemistry and electrolytes
-Abdominal and thoracic POCUS and if effusions are confirmed sampling these and sending for analysis would be helpful.
-Depending on the POCUS findings full abdominal or echo scans may be indicated.π
Wow, this would stress me out if I saw it as a complication! At least you were using omnipaque which is safe for IV administration! Congratulations on getting it published!
Hi Helen,
I’m really enjoying the course thank you, I can’t get the video link to work that you added to this post,but have downloaded Brene’s podcast episode for my next car journey.
Within some teams I work in, I find there are occasionally some ‘negative’ people, who seem to respond to most things with barriers and negative comments, how would you approach trying to get these people on side?
Thanks
Emma
Wow that’s an interesting title for a Friday evening βΊοΈ
Would definitely not have crossed my mind for my ddx list!
Replying to Dan T. 13/10/2022 - 13:23
Thanks Dan and Helen. The article is really interesting, and I think reflects what I have seen in some workplaces with the transition from in-person to remote management/leadership.
My question arose from me trying to work out what type of leadership style my current line manager had and I was struggling to fit them into any of the categories.
I definitely think communication is fundamental, alongside ensuring you get to know your team well, as this is much harder to do in remote settings. The article raises some interesting points about remote leaders being doers, which I completely agree with, as ultimately a remote leader has less to do with the small parts of your job and ultimately their actions/getting tasks done, rather than what they say has an impact.
Thanks again, see you tomorrow night.
Emma
Replying to Liz Bode 06/10/2022 - 20:33
Thanks Liz that’s great and really useful for future cases, using 1 as a cut off.
Replying to Emma Holt 27/09/2022 - 17:05
Hi Liz,
Could I ask another question about myocarditis and Troponin please? I think that in HCM we would expect a high Troponin, but in myocarditis the troponin would be significantly higher, I haven’t really tested this much before, so I wondered what you would quantify as high vs very high. I had a cat that I have diagnosed with HCM, which had a horrible left ventricle, heterogenous and irregular in shape and the Troponin has come back as 0.2 (where normal is < 0.04). Is this high or very high?
Thanks
Emma
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